<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8929683.post3158091305944694007..comments</id><updated>2008-10-25T20:49:37.035-05:00</updated><category term='Emergent'/><category term='Book Review'/><category term='personal'/><category term='John Dominic Crossan'/><category term='Book Swap'/><category term='Mr. Deity'/><category term='Zen'/><category term='John Shelby Spong'/><category term='Dennis Kucinich'/><category term='Site Review'/><category term='Philosophy'/><category term='Peter Rollins'/><category term='Rev. 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In eight presidential elections since 1976, I've voted for one party  Libertarian. In cases where a Libertarian wasn't available, I would usually vote for the Republican, considering that the lesser of the two evils. No longer. In the 2006 Congressional elections, I voted Democratic.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Why? In short, because George W. Bush and the Karl-Rove-dominated GOP has betrayed every ideal that Republicans and Libertarians have in common. They lied us into two unnecessary wars. They've busted the budget and bankrupted our country. They've gutted the Bill of Rights and spied on Americans, with the excuse of a hugely-exaggerated terrorist threat. And- this is probably most unforgivable - they've been complicit in the confiscations of guns in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;So it's my opinion that the GOP needs to be rebuked, strongly and decisively, even if it means voting for "the enemy." Now in my case, I may still vote Libertarian (despite my utter dislike of Bob Barr ) because I live in Arizona and I think it's quite unlikely that McCain will lose in his home state. The same goes in other states that are decisively for McCain or Obama . By all means, show your displeasure by voting third party, any third party.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;But what about those states where the race is still up for grabs? In those states, I believe we should support the clear lesser evil: Barack Obama.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;By now, all my Republican friends and colleagues are shouting "heresy!" (At the moment, I'm registered Republican myself- which I did so I could vote for Ron Paul in the primary, naturally.) But I think I can list ten good reasons why libertarians and even conservatives should hold their noses and vote for Barack.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;1. Much of the stuff going around about Obama on the internet is total nonsense. "He's a Muslim, he supports terrorism, he hates the flag."  As Colonel Potter would say, "Horse-hockey!" I'll admit there's plenty to dislike about Obama's politics without resorting to lies. The man isn't THAT bad.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;2.Obama has a more sane, even-tempered personality than McCain. McCain was a hot-head to begin with, then he spent five years in a POW camp, which will mess anyone up psychologically. I don't want John McCain's finger anywhere near the nuclear button.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;3.Likewise, despite my strong dislike of Joe Biden, at least he's not Sarah Palin. The woman is unqualified to be dogcatcher, much less Vice President. She has indicated a willingness to go to war with Russia in support for Saakashvili's Georgia, a despotic regime in a small country with absolutely no strategic importance to the US.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;4.The right-wingers say that despite Obama's flip-flops on the "war on terror" and US support for Israel, that he still holds to his radical anti-military views, and will immediately pull out of Iraq and end our "special relationship" with Israel. We can only hope! Look, we've got a presence in over a hundred countries, and we spend almost as much on our military as all other countries combined. Isn't that a little overkill?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;5.Speaking of the Welfare Queen of the Mideast, if you've ever checked out the Israeli press online, the candidate who received the most vitriol was Ron Paul. The second most hated man was Barack Obama. Anyone who's that despised by the Israeli right wing can't be all bad. Look, I've got nothing against Israel, I'm just tired of supporting its government, which is influenced out of all proportion by the fanatical loud-mouthed Arab-hating settler community.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;6.I'll admit it- either Obama or McCain could conceivably try to become dictator, but Obama is less likely to succeed. That's because the Right already hates him, and they're the ones with the guns. Anything McCain does, they're likely to accept like bleating sheep, because he's a "war hero" who will invoke patriotic rhetoric to justify his actions. His biggest foes would likely be in the Peace Movement. As much as I respect them, most of them are liberals who are far too wimpy to stage a revolution, should one (God forbid) become necessary.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;7.With the public uproar over the bailout of Wall Street, it's likely we'll have a backlash against the Democrats in the House, the majority of whom supported that fiasco. So Congress could easily go to the Republicans. And a divided government is good for freedom =checks and balances and all that.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;8.The American free enterprise system may not survive another corrupt big-government conservative administration. George W Bush has done more damage to capitalism than any president since FDR. His Social Security privatization plan was so flawed that it may be a generation or more before we have another crack at it. And the mortgage meltdown ? Forget the propaganda about the Community Reinvestment Act. The major cause was the Fed's super-easy money policy, enacted with Bush's support, to try to fix the economic damage caused by the Tech Bubble and the 9/11 attacks (which were in turn enabled by the criminal negligence of You Know Who.)&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;9.Obama is just plain smarter than McCain. Obama graduated from Harvard Law School in the top ten percent of his class. McCain graduated from Annapolis near the bottom of his class. Voting for McCain is like telling your kids, "Don't study, do nothing but party in college, and you too can become President."&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;10.Our first Black President, how cool would that be? I'd rather it be Walter Williams or Thomas Sowell or even Colin Powell- but still, it  would  say to the world that we're finally putting this racism stuff behind us.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;-VT&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;A HREF="http://www.nolanchart.com/article5264.html" REL="nofollow"&gt; Nolan Chart ARTICLE - Libertarians for Barack &lt;/A&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8929683/3158091305944694007/comments/default/4517651018246341788'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8929683/3158091305944694007/comments/default/4517651018246341788'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.faithprogression.com/2008/01/libertarian-support-for-obama.html?showComment=1224985740000#c4517651018246341788' title=''/><author><name>Nolan Chart ARTICLE</name><uri>http://www.nolanchart.com/article5264.html</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.faithprogression.com/2008/01/libertarian-support-for-obama.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8929683.post-3158091305944694007' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8929683/posts/default/3158091305944694007' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-150553701'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8929683.post-8894283197623167028</id><published>2008-10-24T20:57:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2008-10-24T20:57:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>For those who recognize that "libertarian Democrat...</title><content type='html'>For those who recognize that "libertarian Democrat" is no more oxymoronic than "libertarian Republican," a solid case can be made for Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) as a Leader of the Free World who won't take that American Exceptionalism conceit as seriously as "Country First" Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.).&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Reason Magazine has a great article at: &lt;A HREF="http://www.reason.com/news/show/128902.html" REL="nofollow"&gt;www.reason.com/news/show/128902.html&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The Libertarian Case for Obama - 7 potential upsides to a hope-monger presidency&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Thus, seven reasons libertarians can hope for the best from Obama.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;1. Sen. Obama has met at least one war he doesn't love. His early pronouncements against the criminal enterprise in Iraq are enough reason, in themselves, to vote his way on November 4. Anyone paying the least attention must conclude that Lt. McCain's "cause greater than self" always involves the Army, the Navy, and the United States Marines (not necessarily in that order.)&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;2. The election of an African-American will end liberal racism as we know it. If an overwhelmingly white nation chooses a black leader, the Jesse Jacksons and other Mau Mauers for identity-based group preferences will be put out of business, as I explained here.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;3. One word: Osmosis. You couldn't live in Hyde Park or teach at the University of Chicago with the intellectual curiosity of a Barack Obama without gaining at least some understanding of libertarian economics. That can't be said for most of the reactionary left-liberal wing of the Democratic Party dominating Capitol Hill. But I believe Obama is educable on free markets and I'm convinced that Democrats are ripe for a return in the next decade to the liberalism of our party's founder, Thomas Jefferson (I made this case two years ago in my libertarian Democrat manifesto.)&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;4. Obama is the best hope for keeping government out of your bedroom and away from your body. As would any Democratic standard-bearer, the senator from Illinois represents the pro-choice, pro-gay rights side of the cultural divide. And he has at least made interesting soundings about reducing America's status as the world's number one jailer, much of which is tied to drug offenses and other crimes without victims. No libertarian can feel comfortable with a Republican candidate who doesn't echo the personal choices demanded by his supposed hero, Barry Goldwater.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;5. The hidden hand did well this month punishing stupidity. But libertarians committed to free markets, not corporate oligarchs, must pause to consider the need for field-leveling regulation. More precisely, we should ask whether there was sufficient enforcement of reasonable restraints already in place. We need Republicans to stand against excessive tinkering in markets, of course. But my modest retirement fund may be safer with Democratic regulators in charge than rogue elephants. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;6. R-E-S-P-E-C-T. Yes, we need to restore America's reputation around the world. Anybody who's traveled beyond the Atlantic and Pacific in the past eight years knows America needs a makeover. Whatever you think of Barack Obama—unless, like the mindless U!S!A! crowd, you don't care what the world thinks—he will restore much of the goodwill we have lost when he raises his hand on January 20, 2009. That's significant for libertarians who believe in the importance of the nation most committed to free markets and free minds—ours—leading by example. More-of-the-McSame in foreign policy is something we can't afford.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;7. Finally, Barack Obama is smart enough to follow the aspirations of the Gen Y, Millenials, and Echo Boomers next up on the American political stage. They want choices in both their bank accounts and their bedrooms. I don't have much empirical evidence for that, though the college students I teach suggest that such libertarian leanings are on the rise. After all, a generation growing up with an explosion of mega-data-informed choices literally at its keyboard fingertips will resemble the self-sufficient, liberty-loving founders of the Agrarian Age more than they'll resemble the social welfare liberals of the Industrial Era who gave us one-size-fits-all central authority mandates.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8929683/3158091305944694007/comments/default/8894283197623167028'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8929683/3158091305944694007/comments/default/8894283197623167028'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.faithprogression.com/2008/01/libertarian-support-for-obama.html?showComment=1224899820000#c8894283197623167028' title=''/><author><name>Libertarians for Obama</name><uri>http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/LibertariansForObama/gGxMcC</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.faithprogression.com/2008/01/libertarian-support-for-obama.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8929683.post-3158091305944694007' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8929683/posts/default/3158091305944694007' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-499409168'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8929683.post-4185343308209379818</id><published>2008-05-03T19:38:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2008-05-03T19:38:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>His bloated government controlled health care prog...</title><content type='html'>His bloated government controlled health care program will likely be his longest lasting legacy, and is really prohibitive to a libertarian's vote. If he changed that program to something akin to McCain's tax returns for health care, or EVEN a mandate  (to counteract the current public mandate to pay for everyone's health care), I'd consider voting for him.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8929683/3158091305944694007/comments/default/4185343308209379818'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8929683/3158091305944694007/comments/default/4185343308209379818'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.faithprogression.com/2008/01/libertarian-support-for-obama.html?showComment=1209861480000#c4185343308209379818' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.faithprogression.com/2008/01/libertarian-support-for-obama.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8929683.post-3158091305944694007' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8929683/posts/default/3158091305944694007' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-852259819'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8929683.post-5676709636003081898</id><published>2008-02-07T16:53:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2008-02-07T16:53:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I'll concede that point to you Tanner.  The left/r...</title><content type='html'>I'll concede that point to you Tanner.  The left/right metaphor falls short anyway.  But, we are stuck with the words that have become common language.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8929683/3158091305944694007/comments/default/5676709636003081898'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8929683/3158091305944694007/comments/default/5676709636003081898'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.faithprogression.com/2008/01/libertarian-support-for-obama.html?showComment=1202421180000#c5676709636003081898' title=''/><author><name>Mike L.</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/15978997781556741350</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.faithprogression.com/2008/01/libertarian-support-for-obama.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8929683.post-3158091305944694007' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8929683/posts/default/3158091305944694007' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1774899442'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8929683.post-8197823615062513423</id><published>2008-02-07T16:02:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2008-02-07T16:02:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>&lt;i&gt; If you are an anti-war liberty minded voter wh...</title><content type='html'>&lt;I&gt; If you are an anti-war liberty minded voter who is concerned about fiscal responsibility but may be wary of considering a Democrat, then I urge you to reconsider Obama.&lt;/I&gt; &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I am such a voter. I am still of the mindset, though, that he's more of a libertarian-leaning leftist than a left-leaning libertarian. Still, your post is good food for thought.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8929683/3158091305944694007/comments/default/8197823615062513423'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8929683/3158091305944694007/comments/default/8197823615062513423'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.faithprogression.com/2008/01/libertarian-support-for-obama.html?showComment=1202418120000#c8197823615062513423' title=''/><author><name>Tanner</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13519889078388486131</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5842/287/1600/head.1.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.faithprogression.com/2008/01/libertarian-support-for-obama.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8929683.post-3158091305944694007' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8929683/posts/default/3158091305944694007' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-398375644'/></entry></feed>
